Answers in Revelation

Heaven or the Promised Land?

Heaven?Most Christians believe their destiny is heaven. Yet, this concept is not biblical, but was borrowed from Greek philosophy and paganism. The ancient hope of both Old Testament and New Testament saints was based squarely in the Abrahamic Covenant, the Land that God promised to Abraham and to his 'Seed' as an everlasting inheritance. Those who have been baptized into Christ are "Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise."

Muslims and Jews are fighting over the Land God promised to Abraham and to his 'Seed.' Yet, the Bible is clear that it is God's Land. He promised it to Abraham personally as his eternal inheritance, and also to his 'Seed,' who is Jesus Christ and all who have been baptized into Him. The destiny of Christians is not heaven, as both amillennialists and dispensationalists teach. It is the restored Promised Land.


1. Abraham's Permanent Land Inheritance
2. The Second Land Inheritance in the Prophets
3. Jesus' Teaching on the Kingdom & Inheritance
4. The Apostolic Preaching on the Inheritance of the Christian
5. Paul's Teaching on the Inheritance in Galatians and Hebrews
6. The Original Hope of the Martyrs
7. The Pagan Hope Infects the Churches

For an in-depth history of the development of eschatology, from Chiliasm to Amillennialism and Dispensationalism, refer to my book, The TIME of the END.



Answers for Amillennialists

1. The Man of Sin
2. Kingdom Hope in Hebrews
3. "Heavenly" in Ephesians & Hebrews
4. 1 or 2 Resurrections?
5. Revelation 20
6. New Jerusalem
7. Date of Revelation
8. Amillennialism's Gnostic Roots
9. The Corruption of Eschatology

Warner - Doughty Debate

Historic Premillennialism vs. Amillennialism (Video)

Chuck Doughty is a Church of Christ minister, and chancellor of Christian Kingdom College, Harrisonburg, VA.

Session 1: Warner | Doughty | Rebuttals | Conclusions, Q&A
Session 2: Warner | Doughty | Rebuttals | Conclusions, Q&A
Session 3: Warner | Doughty | Rebuttals | Conclusions, Q&A
Session 4: Warner | Doughty | Rebuttals | Conclusions, Q&A

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Warner - Fields Debate

Historic Premillennialism vs. Amillennialism (Written)

Norm Fields is the minister of Jerseyville Church of Christ, Jerseyville, Ill.

Round I: The Abrahamic Covenant
Opening Argument - Tim Warner
Rebuttal - Norm Fields
Response - Tim Warner
Closing Statement - Norm Fields

Round II: The One Hope of the Christian's Calling
Opening Argument - Norm Fields
Rebuttal - Tim Warner
Response - Norm Fields
Closing Statement - Tim Warner

Norm Fields has withdrawn from the debate.

Update: January 2012 - It appears Norm Fields has removed the debate from his website. While the links are still there, the actual files have been removed.

Warner - Frost Debate

Futurism vs. Preterism (Written)

Sam Frost is an author and former pastor.

I. The Tale of Two Jerusalems
Opening Argument Sam Frost - (08-02-03)
Rebuttal Tim Warner - (08-08-03)
Response Sam Frost - (08-10-03)
Closing Statement Tim Warner - (08-13-03)

II. The Resurrection
Opening Argument Tim Warner - (08-24-03)
Rebuttal Sam Frost - (09-05-03)
Response Tim Warner - (09-15-03)
Closing Statement Sam Frost - (09-26-03)

III. The Problem of Ezekiel's Temple
Opening Argument Sam Frost - (01-08-04)
Rebuttal Tim Warner - (01-10-04)
Response Sam Frost - (01-12-04)
Closing Statement Tim Warner - (01-19-04)

IV. The Personal, Bodily, Second Coming of Christ
Opening Argument Tim Warner - (01-22-04)
Rebuttal Sam Frost - (01-26-04)
Response Tim Warner - (01-28-04)
Closing Statement Sam Frost - (01-30-04)

End of Debate Comments Related to Charges of Heresy

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